What Speed Should I Set My Uploads in Kib/s

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limit upload speed to download speed

Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:34 pm

It would be nice to set the "Maximum Upload Speed" to the current download speed of each torrent.
I detest it when I am uploading a torrent at 15 KiB/southward but only downloading it at 10 B/s.

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Re: limit upload speed to download speed

Lord's day Aug 02, 2009 7:11 pm

bjlockie wrote:It would be nice to set the "Maximum Upload Speed" to the current download speed of each torrent.
I hate information technology when I am uploading a torrent at 15 KiB/s but only downloading it at ten B/s.

That could be a useful feature, merely sometimes uploading that extra can lead to others uploading more to you, so you go a faster download speed. And even if that doesn't happen, it ways that you'll have that much less time to have to seed the torrent (bold that you intend to actually fully seed it). Of course, if you're consistently uploading more than you lot're downloading, then you lot'll have a ratio greater than 1 (ridiculously greater than 1 in your instance), so that could definitely exist annoying. Of course, if yous're not consistently uploading more you're downloading, then you're giving up on the opportunity to catch up on your ratio and are going to have to seed the torrent that much longer.

So, in any example, I think that it could definitely exist a useful feature, merely information technology should probably be used with caution.

Personally, I've found that while I'll definitely accept torrents uploading more than they're downloading, I rarely have torrents which finish downloading with a ratio greater than one. It does happen upon occasion (by and large when a torrent is really poorly seeded), but it'southward quite rare. Then, I'd rarely - if ever - use such a feature because it would just force me to seed torrents longer.

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Maybe tie uploading to the share ratio?

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bjlockie wrote:Maybe tie uploading to the share ratio?

That might actually go against the bittorrent spec since it means that you'd however be trying to download while refusing to upload anything if you ever reached a share ratio of 1.0. At the moment, you can manually limit upload speeds to as picayune equally ane KiB/s - which in practice is pretty much the same as saying 0 - just there's no style to ever tell ktorrent to actually non upload annihilation while downloading. Your first suggestion would likely be better.

Of course, the fact that download speeds and upload speeds are constantly irresolute means that it would actually make ktorrent do a lot of work, constantly changing the upload limit - particularly on tedious-moving torrents - every bit the download limit changes. I don't know how bad it would really be, simply it would definitely increase the amount of CPU that ktorrent uses. It also would brand your upload speeds very unstable, which would probably brand peers upload to you less and ultimately injure your download speed. A moving average of sorts could be used to smooth it all out and reduce the corporeality of work that ktorrent would have to do, but it withal would be more than piece of work for ktorrent and would notwithstanding make your upload speed very unstable.

Regardless of any implementation or efficiency issues, nevertheless, I wouldn't use such a feature whatsoever more than than I'd use your showtime suggestion. I rarely take torrents which finish downloading with a ratio greater than ane.0. Even in cases where a torrent's ratio is greater than 1.0 at some signal while it's downloading, it almost always drops below 1.0 before it finishes downloading. In the rare cases that a torrent really finishes downloading with a ratio greater than 1.0, it'southward an extremely slow-moving torrent with very few peers - and while I may limit the speed of the torrent's upload speed sometimes, I certainly don't want to stop information technology because that risks making it then that the few peers that are at that place will cease uploading to me.

I tin sympathise being frustrated that a torrent is uploading more than its downloading, but that's usually just a sign that you're not managing to connect to anyone with data you don't have at the moment, and usually by the fourth dimension that you've actually managed to get the all of the torrent, your ratio has dropped beneath i.0. Are you finding that not to exist the example? Are yous actually having torrents finish with a ratio greater than 1.0 on a regular basis? If not, and so I really don't think that this is something that you lot really need to worry about. If you are regularly having torrents finish downloading with ratios greater than i.0, then you're in a very different situation from me and maybe one of your suggestions would help you (though I however question it since they could make peers less interested in uploading to you). I just oasis't seen it happen enough to really bear worrying almost. If you are seeing it enough to worry about, I'd suggest that for the time beingness, you lot simply fix the upload limits for such torrents. But seriously restricting your upload rate can harm your download rate, so I'd propose that you definitely give them more than i KiB/s - fifty-fifty on downloading torrents that really aren't downloading much of annihilation - or information technology'll likely harm your download speed.

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I don't have torrents finish with a 1.0 share ratio just I worry that they will if I set my upload to unlimited.

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bjlockie wrote:I don't have torrents cease with a 1.0 share ratio merely I worry that they will if I set my upload to unlimited.

Well, that's quite understandable, but in my experience it rarely happens. And you can limit their upload rate right now - yous just take to do it manually instead of having a manner to tie it to the download rate or ratio. Maybe it would be benign to have such a characteristic, merely I really don't think that yous have to worry about it. If you really start to actually encounter it happen to yous on a regular footing, and so I'd worry well-nigh it. Until then, I'd just let them upload and possibly limit them if they just upload and upload without downloading much.

Personally, I tend to have a harder time getting my upload rate high plenty than getting the torrent to download before I hit a ratio of ane.0.

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Aye, i meet why... but this is against the bittorrent protocol, one has to be a good suvilian.

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Monday Aug 10, 2009 xi:13 am

Guys, torrents exist to aid people spread files over the world. Don't be and so greedy. Probably you will download file slowly but someone other will get information technology faster. Just call up what will happen when everyone volition have such feature -- everyone will get files on slowest speed! I think kTorrent users will exist banned on many trackers considering of this feature.

Actually I have rule for uploading of downloaded anime -- I fix group dominion to stop seeding with ratio 3.0. So, at least 3 more people will get this file from me.

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Lain_13 wrote:I think kTorrent users will exist banned on many trackers because of this feature.

This might indeed happen to all of us who employ KTorrent. I already know that George is against this.

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Re: limit upload speed to download speed

Wednesday Sep xxx, 2009 4:38 pm

The whole thought of Torrents is the more people who seed the file, the more bachelor the file is and the faster others can download it.

A leeching Torrent user may ofttimes choose to leave the swarm as soon as they have a complete re-create of the file they are downloading, freeing up their upstream bandwidth for other uses. If enough leeching users follow this design, torrent swarms gradually dice out. Also many people are on asymmetrical connections (meaning they have a faster download speed than upload speed). It takes many slower seeders or peers sending data upstream to make up ane faster download for someone else (mayhap yourself).

The _bare minimum_ ratio you lot should seed to is one.0. Merely if you actually want to contribute to the community that you lot are reaping the benefits of gratuitous fast files from then yous should seed to ane.5 or 2.0. depending on the health of the torrent. That is proper etiquette and annihilation less is beingness greedy.

I ready my ratio limit to two.0 for everything and if it takes me a couple more days or a month or more to reach it, then so be it. My seeding list is but a little longer sometimes. It is my way of helping the costless flow of information over the Internet.

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